DSL 4.2.4

Forum: Site News
Topic: DSL 4.2.4
started by: roberts

Posted by roberts on Jan. 13 2008,20:03

Change Log:

* Changed French default keytable from fr to fr-latin1
* Fixed .dfminfo for pppdial, pon, poff needed missing sudo
* Recompiled and reinstalled ndiwrapper.
* Updated some icons

Files likely in your backup:
.jwmrc
.dfminfo

Posted by mikshaw on Jan. 14 2008,02:31

Quote (mikshaw @ Jan. 12 2008,22:34)
Is the kernel used for 4.x the same as the one used for 2.x?
Specifically, does the nvidia driver that works for DSL 2.x now work for the current DSL?

^thehatsrule^: Yes.
It should, as afaik the kernel was rolled back for things like that.

Sorry, but it don't.
I get a message: Can't load nvidia
This is using nvidia2.dsl, which was built for DSL 2 (kernel 2.4.31)
Apparently that 2.4.31 is not the same 2.4.31 that is in the current DSL

Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on Jan. 14 2008,06:08

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ndiwrapper

Just a small typo... missing the s.

Quote (mikshaw @ Jan. 13 2008,21:31)

Should this not be discussed in the extensions section? �Anyways, when do you get that error? I've loaded up the extension on a machine that doesn't have any testable hardware, but modprobe did try to insert it (and failed accordingly).

And I have found a somewhat related issue with these type of extensions...

Posted by mikshaw on Jan. 14 2008,15:34

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Should this not be discussed in the extensions section?

Yes, now that I'm awake I realize this is more about the extension than about what kernel is in the release. sorry.

Posted by JohnJS on Jan. 14 2008,17:13

Is anyone else having difficulty downloading 4.2.4?.

Tried three downloads from ftb and http ibiblio.org.

All three burned cd's had errors: one had boot errors, the other two had long list of i/o scsi... errors.
As a double check I downloaded 4.2.3 and it worked correctly.

Did checksum on downloads.

Posted by lucky13 on Jan. 14 2008,17:33

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All three burned cd's had errors: one had boot errors, the other two had long list of i/o scsi... errors.

Did you check the md5sum?

EDIT: Oops. Okay. Maybe you have bad CDs?

Posted by JohnJS on Jan. 14 2008,19:25

Very strange. After two more unsuccessful attempts to download and burn 4.2.4 I finally got one to work. All I did was try new downloads and new blank cds but on the last burn attempt I changed the speed from 4 to 8 (don't think that mattered).

Now the new 4.2.4 cd works on my other computer (pII) which has 4.2.3 as frugal/lilo/toram but not on my main computer on which I downloaded and burned the cd.

My main computer has 3.4.9 as frugal/lilo/toram.
Tried the new 4.2.4 as base norestore (the way 4.2.3 worked) but I get several screens full of error messages at boot.

Is it common to have that many bad cds?.

Posted by curaga on Jan. 14 2008,19:45

No, it's not. Maybe your burner is going bad..

Posted by JohnJS on Jan. 14 2008,20:46

I think the fault could be my cdrom. It reads 4.2.3 okay but not 4.2.4. Both burned on the same day. (seq 4.2.4 4.2.4 4.2.3 then 4.2.4)
I have cdrom and cdrw on my main computer.
The newly burned 4.2.4 disk works on my other computer which only has a cdrom.

Posted by lucky13 on Jan. 14 2008,21:47

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Is it common to have that many bad cds?

Depends what brand, etc. I'll spare you the longer version of my adventure with cheap CDs I scored at a certain electronics discounter (28 of 100 were bad).

Try setting burn at 2. It's only 50M.

Posted by JohnJS on Jan. 14 2008,22:16

I believe the last burn speed was at 2.
It works on one cdrom and not the other which leads me to believe it to be the fault of the cdrom. But the cdr that burned it also cannot read it.

FYI watching the screen when cd-recording I see a line reading:
cdrecord warning drive returns wrong startsec (0) using -150.
Writing pregap for track 1 at -150.

Don't know what that means or if it is important.

(burned using "cdrecord -v -eject speed=2 dev=0,1,0 dsl-4.2.4.iso"
Edit; Probably need to switch to another forum category.

Posted by kuky on Jan. 14 2008,23:02

ndiswrapper no sucess (in my case) inf installed hardware detect but no run...a usb fujitsu siemens usb d1705...sniff,sniff mkisofs as book and as wiki no run...

the ucis and the wireless card hated to me...

i return to ver 3.4.9 and to another pc to send the ucis ....

kuky never surrenders

:laugh:

Posted by lucky13 on Jan. 14 2008,23:49

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ndiswrapper no sucess (in my case) inf installed hardware detect but no run..

Let's go through this step by step and see what's happening. Have you only tried with the GUI or have you also tried with doing it manually in console? If you're only using the GUI tool, did you try carrying over the wrapper file it creates from 3.x? Please give more information. And if you haven't tried it manually in a console, please do that so you can paste in the entire process here.

Posted by Juanito on Jan. 15 2008,03:42

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ndiswrapper no sucess (in my case) inf installed hardware detect but no run...a usb fujitsu siemens usb d1705...sniff,sniff

- ndiswrapper didn't work for me in 4.2.3, but it works again in 4.2.4 after Roberts made some changes. Note, this is using a broadcom 4309 pci device.

Posted by curaga on Jan. 15 2008,16:05

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mkisofs as book and as wiki no run...

I corrected all the wiki entries. Maybe the next revision of The Book can have -hide-rr-moved too?

Posted by curaga on Jan. 16 2008,11:52

Okay, I have (finally) tried DSL 4. I booted embedded.
Have to say the new look is great

Even the wallpaper, that remotely says vista, is enough un-vistaish to look awesome. The change to JWM was good. Only thing I didn't like was the new default theme for fluxbox, I prefer the dark flux theme from 3.x instead of the bluish one (that also consumes more screen space; I normally wouldn't have noticed, but I've gotten used to the previous theme)

Here's a patch for kbdconfig; it didn't show all keymaps
< http://rapidshare.com/files/84226763/kbdconfig.patch.html >

Posted by kuky on Jan. 16 2008,20:43

mkisofs solved as the book....

was a problem of understand that / \ means to continue writing the line... pag 206,207 the complete line is
# cd /opt
# mkisofs -R -hide-rr-moved -cache-inodes -pad myapp | create compressed_fs - 65536 > /tmp/myapp.uci

curaga you do not corrected all ...the chinese is in the old version...its courious that the only chinese words that i undestand are in linux code ...or something is wrong in the wiki pages..

:;):

pdta curaga your avatar is batman or a dog smoking ?

Posted by kuky on Jan. 16 2008,21:47

with my wireless problem :

the wireles is loaded with ndiswrapper in aterm

ndiswrapper -i /home/dsl/sis163u.inf

ndiswrapper -d 0bf8:100f sis163u

ndiswrapper -m

sis163u installed hardware present try to do a iwconfig

iwconfig wlan0 essid xxxx mode managed channel x

with no sucess

and i redo with control panel ndiswrapper..add the essid

and quick said no connected...(with comparation other dsl ver)

i remember that in other ver its added some more latency to work the usb wireless??

Posted by lucky13 on Jan. 16 2008,22:52

Do you modprobe ndiswrapper and pump -i wlan0?

Posted by Juanito on Jan. 17 2008,17:57

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with my wireless problem :

- @ kuky, if it helps, here are the steps I took to get ndiswrapper working on my machine with dsl-4.2.4. This is using a router that broadcasts the essid and uses wep:

Code Sample

$ sudo ndiswrapper -i /mnt/sda1/drivers/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5a.inf
Installing bcmwl5a
Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2

$ ndiswrapper -l
Installed drivers:
bcmwl5a driver installed, hardware present

$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
$ lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
ndiswrapper 171708 0
usbcore 58016 1 [ndiswrapper hid usb-storage usb-uhci ehci-hcd]

$ dmesg
...
ndiswrapper version 1.14 loaded (preempt=no,smp=yes)
ndiswrapper: driver bcmwl5a (Broadcom,10/20/2004, 3.70.22.0) loaded
ndiswrapper: using irq 7
wlan0: vendor: ''
wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:0b:7d:29:43:f6 using driver bcmwl5a, 14E4:4324.5.conf
wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP; TKIP with WPA; AES/CCMP with WPA

$ iwconfig
...
Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,
but has been compiled with version 16, therefore some driver features
may not be available...

wlan0 IEEE 802.11a ESSID:off/any
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462GHz Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00
Bit Rate:54Mb/s Tx-Power:25 dBm
RTS thr:2347 B Fragment thr:2346 B
Power Management:off
Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0

$ sudo iwlist wlan0 scan [had to do this several times before it worked]
Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,
but has been compiled with version 16, therefore some driver features
may not be available...

wlan0 Scan completed :
Cell 01 - Address: 00:12:17:71:0F:5C
ESSID:"juanito_essid"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.437GHz
Quality:0/100 Signal level:-53 dBm Noise level:-256 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rate:1Mb/s
Bit Rate:2Mb/s
Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s
Bit Rate:11Mb/s
Bit Rate:18Mb/s
Bit Rate:24Mb/s
Bit Rate:36Mb/s
Bit Rate:54Mb/s
Bit Rate:6Mb/s
Bit Rate:9Mb/s
Bit Rate:12Mb/s
Bit Rate:48Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0

$ sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "juanito_essid"
$ sudo iwconfig wlan0 key restricted 12:34:56:78:9A:BC:DE:F1:23:45:67:89:AB
$ iwconfig
...
wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:"juanito_essid"
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437GHz Access Point: 00:12:17:71:0F:5C
Bit Rate:54Mb/s Tx-Power:25 dBm
RTS thr:2347 B Fragment thr:2346 B
Power Management:off
Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0

$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
$ sudo pump -i wlan0
$ sudo ping www.damnsmalllinux.org
PING www.damnsmalllinux.org (65.254.46.177): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 65.254.46.177: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=280.5 ms
...

Posted by kuky on Jan. 17 2008,18:31

thanks juanito...

i think that its better to pass these post to network wifi..i only think to put a general advice in these thread if its possible to improve ndiswrapper and wifi in dsl 4.xx (neck of bottle in dsl also with printers drivers)

We have to take care of the health of roberts that are stressed...

:;):

pdta luky13 i writte -i pump wlan0 with no sucess (we are of the family ? )

Posted by curaga on Jan. 18 2008,17:03

I just did a grub HD install from a boot floppy, with KNOPPIX transferred wirelessly over irda (took 2.1h, funny that). Seems the windows boot section is still not fully fixed; as windoze needs the chainloader +1 line uncommented too, but it stayed commented..

Posted by roberts on Jan. 18 2008,19:17

I had fixed it frugal-grub, but since traditional hard drive install grub boot loader option shares the same grub menu template, it too needs to be fixed. Thanks for reporting.

Posted by JohnJS on Jan. 18 2008,20:13

Finally switching to 4.2.4. Seems to run faster (or my imagination).

Question: With 3.4.9 I had dsl extensions in a dcty on hda3 named 'extensions'. I loaded them when needed.
With 4.2.4 where is the correct location to put them?
I get 'permission' notice.
I do not use the extensions daily (gimp, OO).

Posted by roberts on Jan. 18 2008,20:14

Quote (curaga @ Jan. 16 2008,03:52)

Okay, I have (finally) tried DSL 4. I booted embedded.
Have to say the new look is great

Looks like one keymap was added that was not .kmap but intead .map. Patch applied thanks.

BTW I have never seen Vista, other than on the Web. "Fractal Movements" is a DSL classic and was a favorite on a much earlier version of DSL.

Posted by roberts on Jan. 18 2008,20:17

Quote (JohnJS @ Jan. 18 2008,12:13)

Correct permissions should be dsl.staff on the folder containing extensions.

Posted by JohnJS on Jan. 18 2008,20:42

Thanks roberts.

Posted by curaga on Jan. 18 2008,21:29

Currently there was only one keymap without that k in front of map, but it's standard to name them .map. At least in newer kbd versions they are named .map.gz, so I thought it would be better to support them too, in case more keymaps will be added.

Posted by jpeters on Jan. 22 2008,00:07

I just updated....Looks great; nice job!

Posted by JohnJS on Jan. 25 2008,18:25

Using 4.2.4 Frugal/Lilo/toram.

Had been working fine. As of yesterday double-clicking on MyDSL icon gives me a blank screen at the top of the monitor. The title bar and mydsl icon are not visible. Unable to move the window. Structure and Detail view gives me a full view of the window.
Tried LiveCD and it works correctly.
Could there be an error in my backup file?. If so how would I correct this without starting from scratch?

Edit: Fixed it. Must have moved it off-screen. Played around with Ctrl-Alt-click or some combination and have now restored the window for full view.
Sorry to waste forum space.

Posted by lucky13 on Jan. 25 2008,18:46

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Could there be an error in my backup file?. If so how would I correct this without starting from scratch?

Perhaps you inadvertently deleted it? You can just add back the icon/link to /usr/bin/mydslPanel.lua.

Edit:

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Fixed it. Must have moved it off-screen.

I just thought of that, too.

Posted by JohnJS on Jan. 25 2008,20:00

Not saving edited version of siag.
Using siag for checkbook records.
Notice that after click/ctrl-drag file to desktop and saving after editing the version in DFM/home is not changed.
Tried click/ctrl-drag file back to home but that doesn't work.

Edit: FYI 'save' apparently only saves the file on the desktop.
'save as' changes both.
(Works differently from 3.4.9)
Same save problem with TED.rtf files. Tried 'save' and 'save as' but no luck.

Solved: Should have used 'link' instead of 'copy' to drag onto desktop.
Ooops.

Posted by nitemarepc on Jan. 28 2008,15:15

I'm a newbie to linux and confused as to references to 4.0 and 4.1 and getting this to. I'm trying to install 4.2.4 embedded with timestamp of 1/13/08 on the ftp site for download. I have installed the embedded on a usb memory stick and use a floppy-usb to boot from the memory stick on a Toshiba Satellite 335CDS with 32Mb memory 266 processor and does not allow usb boot for cd but will do a usb boot from a memory stick. It boots fine and no problems. I decided to install on the harddrive with a frugal grub install. The instructions for the install was great and did the 3 partitions with no problem until after the install and remove the floppy to reboot. On the reboot, it halts right after the processor type shows with the cursor disappearing and it just sets there. I then tried the harddrive install with the the usb memory stick and the install went well and the reboot went fine and everything worked great. I wanted the frugal install to be able to update as recommended. I'm really wanted the frugal though. I also tried the Lilo and that did not work either. There was some error and it wouldn't even install. Can someone point me in the right direction??

Posted by roberts on Jan. 28 2008,16:24

You have very low ram. Try doing the frugal install from the basic install menu, i.e., boot DSL like this:

boot: install

However with such low ram you will likely get better performance with a traditional hard drive install.

Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on Jan. 28 2008,17:25

nitemarepc: I have used 32mb of RAM (and less) with a frugal DSL setup, although with the 2.4.26 kernel. �The main thing I had to do is to set up and enable swap... did you do this?

Posted by nitemarepc on Jan. 28 2008,18:20

I have three partitions. one is 75MB for the main install, second for the swap of 150MB and the rest for msdsl and extensions. The harddrive is 4 GB drive. I followed the instructions on the main page on how to do this.

Posted by nitemarepc on Jan. 28 2008,18:28

Robert
I don't understand. When I boot with the floppy do I put the boot: install instead of the dsl fromusb vga=788 frugal??

PS I'm having a ball learning linux and how to get around. Is there some book or online resource that will get me grounded with linux??
I'm a programmer in VB6, RPG & COBOL and have expertise in troubleshooting pc hardware problems.

Thanks for all your help. DSL rocks!!

Posted by curaga on Jan. 28 2008,18:57

Wow, a Role Playing Game programmer, I didn't know you could program in that

With those codes you would replace dsl with install:
install fromusb vga=788 frugal

Linux.org's three online courses are very good in getting to know the basics.

Posted by nitemarepc on Jan. 28 2008,22:16

Thanks for the tip on the DSL install and the online courses. I appreciate the help from all and looks like doing some studying on linux. I'll let you know how that works out.